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PostSubject: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeSun Sep 21, 2014 3:59 pm

Im going to start off by saying I was extremely irritated yesterday so the last thing I wanted to do was play a game that was going to irritate me even more. 2nd, We do NOT and I emphasize NOT push people to play AT ALL. If someone wants to play then fine, if not, that is ok as well. We are a clan of adults that JUST want to get on and have fun. FUN!!!!! And if we are already having a bad day, then playing a game that is stressful is not going to be a fun time. I for one have been burnt out on Ghosts because of clan wars and it made me really despise the game in general. As well as a few other MG members as well. So I really do not feel like playing let alone being pushed to play.

Now, there is a difference between no shows and quitters. Those who are no shows are those who had other things they wanted to do and didnt want to play a certain game at a certain time and that is fine. But DO NOT ever push them to play. Quitters are those who should be aimed at. Im going to point out a line from a private message that was sent to me. "This is not a free rewards train" This was sent to me, a founder of MG from another member. To me this was very disrespectful. No member as far as leadership and under should be talking in this manner to an owner/founder or management. This is the ONLY warning that will be given. If an owner/founder or any member of management wants to be on a roster for a game, they will be put on, no questions asked and no disrespect given. We in management are in our positions for a reason. If someone has an issue, then they can come to their respected game leaders or management. That is what we are here for. But in no way shape or form will management will be disrespected again.

Now, the future of MG and how you are affected. We will do clan wars for Advanced Warfare BUT only after I am able to have discussions with other members on how it should be handled. At the core, we are a casual clan and will not push any member past or future to play. The core of our group is now on next gen and I hope others are soon to follow so I am going to announce now, in the next couple months we are going to move from multi platform to a core base on the Xbox One. I am hoping that by Jan.1 we will be an Xbox One only community. Does this mean those who do not have an XB1 cannot be a part of MG? Not at all, it just means the core experience will be on the XB1. With many new games being released in the coming months on next gen, I hope MG will have a decent presence on each game. Im seeing 2015 to be a good year for MG and hope members will see it as a good year as well. With all the new games coming, we are going to have monthly updates here on the forums as well as contests to win actual (digital) prizes. Stay tuned for good things to come.

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeSun Sep 21, 2014 4:49 pm

I'll come right out and say that the "free rewards train" comment was from me and I didn't mean to disrespect you. There were 7 or so of us talking and that's what we had decided. There are a handful of us who have put in countless hours fighting in these clan wars and suddenly when there is a reward for advanced warfare you decide that you should be entitled to that reward without putting in any of the time or contributing to the group like the rest of us on the roster are.

I've said from day one, and even before then, that I would handle the Ghosts roster this way. The roster is for people playing the game and I've always been happy to switftly add people who want on, on the sole condition that they will be playing with us.

No ones being pushed to play; anyone can ask to be taken off the roster or be added back at any time. That's exactly why I have set up the roster the way I have. Anyone can choose to play or not to play, but frankly, requesting to be added so you can get free rewards without hopping on the game, even just for few hours, is a disrespect to everyone else who is putting in the time and pulling their weight.

I understand that you are a founder and owner, but we're not asking a lot of you here. You want some sweet gear for advanced warfare? Great, just play with us for little while tonight; that's all we want.

Again, I would like to stress that I didn't mean any disrespect, I was just telling you like it is and letting you know what the general consensus was on the issue.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 8:59 am

Not to stir the fire, but if Kold didn't play he didn't get the reward. I'm pretty sure you don't get rewards just being on roster without playing at least 1 game.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 2:34 pm

We are strictly a fun clan/gaming community you day? So back when you played ghosts and when there were several lobbies of us going, stoney was playing gta and I clearly remember you getting so pissed off that he wasn't playing ghosts. Its true about the rewards train. You see you get something for AW thrn you want to hop in. Seems pretty selfish to me considering the hours that some of us have put into this game for clan wars and trying to keep our clan at the top of the leaderboards.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 6:12 pm

Know what, im sick of people saying they put all these hours in. I remember SEVERAL clan wars where I and some other members, BEFORE your group joined Galactica, played 8-17 hours IN A DAY for several days during clan wars. So boo hoo, you put in 3 or 4 hours in on a clan war. And no, it wasnt just 1 time that stoney was playing GTA. It was damn near EVERY clan war. "Yea guys ill play" He would play for a game or 2 then say he will be right back, then he would be seen on GTA. The only reason I would even say anything to him about it is because I had SEVERAL members come to me complaining that he isnt even helping with the clan war. Was I wrong for doing so? No, because if I have members coming to me about an issue they are having with another member, I am going to speak up about it. Hell, we had a member on the roster last night that didnt play "because I dont feel like it" (remember, I know what goes on even if im not on) and I personally feel that member should be reprimanded for it. Now, if you even look, or even ask Malikk, I NEVER asked to be put back on the roster. Clan wars burnt me out on Ghosts so I had no desire to even play. And to keep our clan on the top of the leaderboards? LMFAO from what I have been hearing, We havent even had to try to win these last few clan wars with no other clans even participating or just half participating. So to come at me for not playing, when I never asked to be put back on the roster is fucking bullshit. Come at the ones that are ON the roster and not playing. Get ur facts right or dont come at me at all.

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 6:48 pm

I didn't feel like playing, oh well lol. Yall could play 2 or 3 more clan wars I'd still have more hours put in than anyone in the clan lol

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 6:50 pm

Somebody is getting a little defensive. All this "power" has driven you mad. All it is with you is complaining.

Half of the group that currently plays is my group besides from urban/faun/batman and maybe one or two others I can't think of off the top of my head.

For petes sake adam, doc z and I quit to even make you think about giving the leadership to somebody else that actually plays ghosts still. And that was like two months ago. What shotty leadership is that? Not heeding to your fellow clan mates requests to actually have a chance at clan wars.

And I put in 3-4 hours in every clan war? Are you fucking new? I guarentee over half my play time is put into those clan wars that lasted a few days.

The thing about stoney is true, but like you have clearly said 20 times in the past two posts you got burnt out of ghosts. What if that's what happened to stoney? Got burnt out and had to take a break? If he didn't help, kick him from the roster, if people had problems with somebody not helping, kick them from the roster. Its not that fucking difficult to grow some balls and remove somebody from a roster of a video game that can be even more easily re-added.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 6:53 pm

Side note: it doesn't really even fucking matter about your hours you put it frozen. Not during clan wars anyways. Clan wars are all about the Ws. That's how you score points. Rather play 3 games and win all of them than to play for 3 hours and lose all of them. I'm not saying you lost all of them, but I'll tell you what. Ig was quite a challenge when I had to play with some members back in january to try and win matches to score nodes.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 7:35 pm

Well, see, the thing is, this whole thing started when I was added back to the roster when I never even asked to be put back on, was messaged several times to play and now that I didnt play, im the bad guy? All I said is focus on those on the roster not playing rather than focus on someone NOT on the roster and didnt play.

And DONT even go there with me about hours put in. How many clan wars (and I can have some back me on this) did you Galactica say you were going to play and were a no show when we NEEDED members? I lost count. And yea, your group left and came back after I gave Malikk leadership. I didnt ask for you to come back, that was Malikk's call which I was ok with. But now it seems everytime I post something, not even relating to the whole group in which you play with, you all have to come at me with drama. You wanna start drama, you can do it elsewhere. This is a clan that I founded along with Urban and Charger and I especially am not going anywhere so if you think otherwise, you got another thing coming. Im personally glad clan wars is over for Ghosts because now the drama can end. Any more "shots fired" at anyone in management or higher WILL result in a roster removal and ban. We are a no drama clan and if you want to start drama, you wont be doing it here.

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 7:49 pm

So what's my punishment?

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 8:17 pm

We have always focused those on the roster. Frozen you're being a very very big hypocrite with everything you say. It's insane. You have to have set morals with your clan and get it together.

We are the drama starters? Oh please.

I really said I would play and didn't show up? Let me know every time. I want proof. Let's hear your backup since you "hear everything that goes around". I'm very curious when in terms i have said the words I'm gonna play and didn't in fact play. Make my day.

And no we don't come at you and start drama about posts not relating to us. I am almost certain all my posts are related to clan wars, destiny, or simply asking lord demious to post WoT threads in the correct area. Simply put.

So if you have anything else to backup your shit, let's hear it.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 8:21 pm

Don't get me wrong I love everybody in this clan, I enjoy being around everybody. But there's so much stupid shit that happens I feel like it's not known as mature gamers. It seems more so like highschool gamers.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 8:27 pm

Did you not ask to be put back on the roster? That's what Urban was telling me... I know there's a much bigger issue here than that, but still...
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 8:55 pm

Malikk wrote:
Did you not ask to be put back on the roster? That's what Urban was telling me... I know there's a much bigger issue here than that, but still...

Nope, he came in the other night, threw Ghosts on my lap and said he added me back to the roster.

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 9:01 pm

See there's a little misunderstanding there because urban said that you said you wanted in.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 9:12 pm

I was there and yes frozen is correct urban thought he would play as long as he had a team to play with cuz there was lack of a full team on the one. Personally it didn't matter there were a few people on the roster that did not play in every clan war. We have never called people out on anything and if you have concern for the clan or your own opinion it was always taken and discussed with leaders and owners. Frozen has always done what was in the best interest for the clan but not without discussing it. If you did not like a decision that was made don't be hasty to point your fingers when you don't know the entire story. I will be the first to admit that everyone put in there fair share of hours but there were times when an extra person cost us a win and if it weren't for urban, turk and I we would not have been in diamond division nor had all of our wins for the war cry, when everyone quit the clan we pulled through and won it so we could be in diamond again.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeMon Sep 22, 2014 9:24 pm

I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeTue Sep 23, 2014 8:48 pm

My apologies for the misunderstanding, then. I was under the impressions that Frozen had gotten himself put on the roster without even talking to me about it, but couldn't be bothered to play with us; which was a little upsetting.

Regardless, there's got to be a better way for us to solve these issues thats not resorting to blowing up on the forums and starting additional fires.

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PostSubject: Re: MG, Clan Wars and you   MG, Clan Wars and you Icon_minitimeWed Sep 24, 2014 2:56 pm

I agree once again.
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